Posts by Black Sheep

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Disassociation

by evilone in

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hi all, i haven't posted here in quite some time.. just as an update, about two years ago, my wife and i moved to a big city about 500 miles away from the town in which we grew up.

we made this move in part to expedite the fading process, which was successful.

when we moved, as i described in an earlier post, we formally transferred from our home cong (where our families are) to a local cong in our new city, and then transferred twice more so as to get lost in the shuffle.

Black Sheep

You haven't left anything real. It isn't Jehovah's Organisation, it's just a bunch of deluded fools pretending they represent a god a previous fool named Jehovah.

Why make it official that you don't belong to something that doesn't exist? I reckon it just feeds their delusion that they are important.

Plus ... if you ever want to have an intelligent discussion with a JW, you have to do it while their defences are down, which is why the WT wants you to have DA tattooed on your forehead to ID you as an evil Apostate. Play by their rules ... and they win.

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Is the Watchtower Really Rewriting their History through the DVDs and CD-ROM?s Historical Revisionist.

by RottenRiley in

i am searching for the materials showing the watchtower changing the original content like or examples of the following.. .

"the preaching work will be finished in the 20th century and never be repeated".

i heard they changed this gem, and many others, why are they so dishonest, their members are stuck in the mental mud, doubt they even read the new magazines so why are they going to the trouble of changing or revising their past magazines when the members wanting true christian freedom, practicing love and compassion will locate the revised materials?.

Black Sheep

I am searching for the materials showing the Watchtower changing the original content like or examples of the following.

I wouldn't go making this accusation to anyone who will take you to task to provide some evidence for it.

"The Preaching Work will be finished in the 20th century and never be repeated".

In the example you give, the change was made between the public rag and the BV.

I do not know of one instance where there is a change between the CD and the printed version. The CD always reflects the last print edition.

Plus ........ there are some very embarrassing statements made that are still included on the CD that would have been 'edited' if they were doing what some newbie 'apostates' accuse them of. If you want to rattle the brain of a JW, use those, rather than an accusation that you haven't got original printed evidence for.

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Is Eating The Clone of Your Baby Wrong or Yuk? If so why? Placenta with Shallots Recipe.

by RottenRiley in

what's your view, i will agree with the watchtower's belief system and say it's wrong to eat the genetic clone of my child.

here's a clip, if you want the rest of the article, i will post what the apologist ask to those eating a placenta, is it yuk or cool?.

".... listen to the words of richard dawkins from oxford, gladly declaring the philosophical ramifications of naturalism.

Black Sheep

You can make eating eggs on toast sound disgusting if you put your mind to it.

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Well it's Groundhog Day...Again

by EndofMysteries in

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Black Sheep

Living with a Rutherford era convert, I get it.

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Almost a JW

by JesseS in

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friends

i have never been a jw.

in fact, i've never set foot inside a kh.

my parents began studying in the early 70s, before i was born.

Black Sheep

Hi Jessie. Welcome to the forum

I came home, terrified. I don't know why this time his words stuck. I've heard them for 30 years.

If you take the time to analyse the JW literature your Dad was reading 30 years ago, you will find that what he was telling you regarding the time frame for the arrival of the Watchtower's Armageddon has passed it's use by dates without any angry gods showing up to demonstrate that the leaders of the Watchtower are not just a bunch of nutters. My Dad has been telling me this stuff for 60 years, and his earliest predictions are so far out of whack with what actually occurred that he has to lie to me to pretend he didn't make a mistake by signing up with a bunch of loonies when he was just a kid.

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What is the world´s biggest religious fraud?

by Bugbear in

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friends

among several hundreds of candidates i have only picked 3, my question is, who of these is the world s biggest religious fraud?.

founded by russel, claiming to have about 8 mill.

followers, who are dedicated to give their time and money voluntary to 8 old men sitting in a golden palace, whit a number of treasure directors, investing in bonds and real estates.

Black Sheep

god

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Disrupting literature carts

by perfect1 in

i am ready for a little guerilla warfare (no one gets hurt, of course).

but these literature carts in the city need to go.

everytime i walk by its all i can do to keep from knocking the thing over.. any ideas on how to destroy their little stash of paper.. so far my best idea is water, pouring water all over it.

Black Sheep

Be nice and take as much litteratrash as they will let you have every time you go past it. Try to get high cost items like Bibles.

Do this when there is high traffic so that they have an audience if they object.

Encourage your friends to do the same.

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British museum bible tours

by inbetween in

visiting london years ago i had the chance to participate on a bible tour arranged from bethel.

what i remember, it was one out of 12 topics, and a brother or sister served as a guide, showing particular objects related to bible accounts.. at that time, i was quite enthusiastic about it, thinking i learned something valuable.. .

now, being awake to ttatt, i wonder what real scientific value those tours served.. or rather it raises the suspicion, that those tours are for visiting witnesses in order to distract them from many other finds in the museum, that would disprove either the bible or their own theology.. anybody ever made such a tour ?.

Black Sheep

It's a trick. They don't want you taking a tour with the museum's own guides, who really know their stuff.

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Should I allow my mom to see the grandchildren?

by confusedandalone in

so i am not officially da/do yet and my family has shunned me hard.

today crying my mother calls me to beg to see my children... should i let her?

i feel that if you can speak abusive of your own son and wife and shun the.

Black Sheep

Your Mum deserves the respect of a Mum, no matter what is thrown at you.

We. as parents, have to earn respect. It is not ours as of right, regardless of whether our kids were planned, or were the result of a night of debauchery or a broken condom (that's me), or whatever.

My parents have had plenty of opportunities to earn my respect and have blown them all by being dishonest with me.

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Golden Age Goodies

by Leolaia in

recently i had the pleasure to examine a stash of 1920s and 1930s golden age magazines, among the rarest of watchtower publications.

i thought it would be a fun idea to have a thread in which i share with you some of the amazing, ridiculous, hilarious things contained therein.

hence, this is the first post of a series of excerpts, scans, etc.

Black Sheep

VM44,the photos of Rutherford's grave at Staten Island does not exist. It dissappeared.

What URL? Have you tried archive.org

Leolaia,do you have a website of your own in showing those Watchtower treasures?

This is it. Leolaia hasn't posted for a while, so don't expect a reply from her.